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Old 03-04-2008, 11:39
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tapi bagusnya kawasaki gitu ya, minim iklan, tapi infonya cepet bgt
nyampe ke konsumen,
he he he jauh sebelum iklan ada juga isu gonjang-ganjing 250R udah santer banget bro
Motornya emang bagus sih...coba kalo motornya biasa2 aja...
kagak bakalan se heboh ini gw rasa
* 250R adalah motor KAWI paling laris di USA
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pemilihan timing yang tepat, bro..
disaat orang nunggu peluncuran jagoan baru AHM, ninja ngambil moment mencuri perhatian motomania

AHM kalah cepat?

AHM sepertinya perlu men-setting ulang format peluncuran dengan kemasan yang lebih menyedot perhatian nih..
Beda segmen kayaknya bro...Bebek Xover VS NInja 250R ??? Come On!!
mungkin menurut gw Suzuki yang paling kebakaran jenggot kayaknya dengan akan munculnya city sport....coba perhatiin di koran/tabloid2 otomotif...iklan Satria FU 150 jadi sering keluar kan? Analisa awam gw sih gitu
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Kalo menurut gw,jauh lebih bahaya produk YMKI dibanding AHM bro...kenapa,kalo AHM ngeluarin produk canggih baru udah pasti harganya dijamin muahal...kalo YMKI harga dengan produk memang bersaing...sedang kalo Ninja menurut gw terlalu "exclusive'....pangsa pasarnya khusus buat yang hobby doank..nggak semerakyat produk seperti Tiger,Pio or thundie.....strategi ini dipakai YMKI dulu ketika Kawasaki launching ZX-130,trus Suzuki lepas Shogun 125 n AHM ikutan lepas supra-x 125,YMKI dengan gagahnya lepas MX-135 yang "booming" karena harga yang relatif murah dan fitur yang canggih.....YMKI seperti menunggu reaksi AHM ketika kompetitor lain leaps produk baru,sebelum melepas senjata utamanya......AHM seperti terkesan ragu2 lepas produk 250cc,mungkin belum ketemu setting harga yang pas biar untung guedeeeee......
Sekali lagi...setujuh dengan bro Rinaldi...
AHM bakalan mikir 13 kali buat ngeluarin produk2 semacam ninja 250R
ceruk pasarnya sangat kecil menurut gw
jauh lebih kecil dari ceruk pasar TIGER

Kata AHM: ...ceruk Kecil...kapan gw untungnyaaaaa...cmiiw
* zing kabor.... pake honda legenda
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:32
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Rasanya Honda belum punya produk yang bisa menyaingi segmen 250cc. Mungkin hornet 250 atau VTR250, tapi ini naked, bukan sport. Yang sport adanya cbr125. Dulu sih ada CBR250RR tapi kelihatannya malah tidak dibikin lagi sejak lama.

Padahal 250cc ini segmen penting di Indonesia untuk transisi dari motor 'laki' ke moge, begitu?
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Rasanya Honda belum punya produk yang bisa menyaingi segmen 250cc. Mungkin hornet 250 atau VTR250, tapi ini naked, bukan sport. Yang sport adanya cbr125. Dulu sih ada CBR250RR tapi kelihatannya malah tidak dibikin lagi sejak lama.

Padahal 250cc ini segmen penting di Indonesia untuk transisi dari motor 'laki' ke moge, begitu?
setuju bung andi....kapan2 kalo lagi touring lewat mbogor..aku di call ya...mau ikut ah

copy paste dari wikipedia...

....The other main competitors are the other 250 cc "beginner bikes," namely the Hyosung GT250R, Honda's Rebel 250 and Nighthawk 250, the Suzuki GZ250, and the Yamaha Virago 250.

...With the exception of the Nighthawk, (a standard) and the Hyosung, these bikes are all cruisers. None of these bikes can match the Ninja 250's greater power, 14,000 rpm redline, 6-speed gearbox, tachometer, or front and rear disc brakes....
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sapa nih yg dah punya? sharing dong.. buat pasar Asia RR250 terpusat di Bangkok, bisa jadi buat Indonesia jadi produk impor alias built-up..hhmm
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Pendapat mengenai 250R di kawiforums.com

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....to give you a reference point or two i will tell you this
about myself. I am 59 years old and I am a scooter slut. I've been
riding for 43 years and have owned everything from Japanese Sport
bikes to Ducatis. My garage currently consists of a severely hot rodded Sporty, A 650 KLR , a new Versys and a '08 Ninja 250 R.
My three previous scoots were a Road King, KTM 625 Supermoto and BMW Boxer Cup replica.

After dozens and dozens of bikes i have reached the conclusion that they are mostly all good. Like most things considered a tool, there are some bikes that are simply better at things and conditions than others.

The 250 Ninja is to motorcycling what the original Mini Cooper... MG Midget
and Triumph Spitfire were to automobiles... light... sporty... and flat
out monkey fun. It makes for a good back road commuter, a fine urban scoot and nice plaything in the twisties. If you are now or become exclusively a speed junkie it will ultimately not satisfy. To get the most out of a 250R requires a modicum of finesse. The secret to riding it well is to build momentum and then maintain it. I believe that time on this bike would make most people a better rider as smoothness and forethought are richly rewarded.

I went for a scoot today and chose the little Ninja because it never
fails to put a grin on my face. So much so that in July of '09 two friends and i will each scoot one of these things from California to Halifax... a distance of about 4200 miles. We could have chosen any number of bikes
that would be quicker, faster, hugely more comfortable, offer greater
weather protection and perform infinitely better on varying types of roads. We reasoned however that nothing will have us laughing in our helmets as much as these things.
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menurut iklan mesin dah DOHC, 2 Silinder dan kekurangannya sepertinya masih karbu bukan injeksi (kecuali pasaran eropa dan injeksi) emang Kawasaki adem ayem tp begitu keluarin motor sport series ninja pasti mantab deh, KRR aja dah 31jt kalo ini diperkirakan maen di 35-40jt x ya secara pabriknya di thai aja menkonfirm kalo kandungan lokal hanya 40%, berarti di indonesia kemungkian akan CBU ney. Coba cek ah ke KMI
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menurut iklan mesin dah DOHC, 2 Silinder dan kekurangannya sepertinya masih karbu bukan injeksi (kecuali pasaran eropa dan injeksi) emang Kawasaki adem ayem tp begitu keluarin motor sport series ninja pasti mantab deh, KRR aja dah 31jt kalo ini diperkirakan maen di 35-40jt x ya secara pabriknya di thai aja menkonfirm kalo kandungan lokal hanya 40%, berarti di indonesia kemungkian akan CBU ney. Coba cek ah ke KMI
bro...sudah bukan mungkin lagi...memang KMI akan ngedatengin Ninja 250R Gelondongan utuh aliab CBU dari thai...kalo soal harga...menurut gw bakalan berkepala 4 deh
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krr gress 31 ya? di bandung 29,5 harga awalnya.
yang nawar bisa dapet 28.. di main dealer lagi.. ada di thread krr 150 di sini.
coba liat aja.

kalo krr gress 29an.. baiknya ni 250 ga lewat 40 deh..

kenapa ya si mbak yg ditelpon bang taufik bilang harganya belon definitif?
*inget tiger revo yg dulu oktober 2006 pas ditanya harga malah minta ongkos indent, padahal motornya dah numpuk di depan showroomnya.

apa nunggu harga motor2 yg wara-wirinya mau dilaunch bln ini?
apa bener KMI cuma ngerangkai part yg diimpor?
ga ada partnya yang diproduksi di sini ya? wah bahaya ini mah.

infonya lagi ya..
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di US harga $3.499 (MSRP) apa ya maksudnya MSRP itu dah injeksi, nah biasanya untuk pasaran amerika pasti tuh yg produksi di amerika selatan (Brasil, Argentina dll) nah untuk pasaran eropa yg produksi di Asia (Kawasaki Thailand), kalo lebih dari 40 jt kayaknya bakalan berat tuh....
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kenapa ya si mbak yg ditelpon bang taufik bilang harganya belon definitif?
*inget tiger revo yg dulu oktober 2006 pas ditanya harga malah minta ongkos indent, padahal motornya dah numpuk di depan showroomnya.

apa nunggu harga motor2 yg wara-wirinya mau dilaunch bln ini?
apa bener KMI cuma ngerangkai part yg diimpor?
ga ada partnya yang diproduksi di sini ya? wah bahaya ini mah.

infonya lagi ya..

biasanya sih nego BBN nya tuh sama kepolisian yg lama, makannya harganya masih definitif
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Abis cek harga....harganya OFF THE ROAD 39.5 juta !!!! wakkkssss....

ON THE ROAD jd brapa ya?????
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Abis cek harga....harganya OFF THE ROAD 39.5 juta !!!! wakkkssss....

ON THE ROAD jd brapa ya?????
nelfon yg dimana mas bro?

BBN tambah +-4 juta kayanya, harga wajar sih kalo emang CBU,
pajak paling jatoh di kisaran 1 juta, IMHO
makanya harus dikonfirmasi lagi nih infonya, biar worth-it.
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nelfon yg dimana mas bro?

BBN tambah +-4 juta kayanya, harga wajar sih kalo emang CBU,
pajak paling jatoh di kisaran 1 juta, IMHO
makanya harus dikonfirmasi lagi nih infonya, biar worth-it.
Dealer yg di hayam wuruk-jakarta bro.....Armada Ruang Motor......mahal yak.....
Kurang lebih bisa 43 juta yak....wheeeewwwww....
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info nih dr tmn gw,
ada bengkel yang mau pamerin 250r-nya,
katanya sih 'launching', tp ga da acara khusus kayanya.
ada yg merah sama yang ijo katanya.
dy sendiri nyiapan angka cantik 45
Alamat bengkelnya di Anjany, Jalan Panjang Kebon Jeruk, buka mulai jam 9.
Ada yg pernah denger bengkel ini ngga?
jadi bingung, yg di Indonesia ini CBU utuh apa ngga.
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hihi caplock lupa dimatiin tuh bro...
menurut gw mungkin Ninja 250R banyak dkonsumsi oleh fans2 baru ninja
sedangkan buat old fans ninja yang notabenenya speed lover , kalo spek performanya BETI...besar kemungkinan ogah tukar tambah RR 150 ke 250R...ini beru pendapat saya bro
power dan torsi ninja 250 ama KRR sama, tapi ninja 250 lebih berat jadi

kencengan KRR dikitlah. dulu saya sempet memprediksi top speed ninja 250

sekitar 170kpj ternyata emang deket2 itu, sedang KRR konon 180kpj, walau saya

hanya pernah nyoba 170kpj beberapa detik, tapi 160kpj dah sering bgt n buat

saya kecepatan segitu dah lebih dari cukup, hmmm pengen sech ganti tapi

untuk sementara ini rasional dulu ah coz masih kul hikz2 T.T

pokoknya buat saya motor baru bisa disebut DEFINETELY MALE or disebut MOTORNYA LELAKI kalo dah bisa lari 100mil/jam
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td baru liat iklannya di otomotif...

waa...kapan ni liat benerannya ngeraung di jalan yac...
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Aaaaahh.........diatas 40 juta???dah lah biar gw balik aja...ngeenggg naik tigi maning........
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Abis cek harga....harganya OFF THE ROAD 39.5 juta !!!! wakkkssss....

ON THE ROAD jd brapa ya?????
hmmm sejak awal...gw dah ngira bakalan nyentuh2 angka 45 JT tuk nebus motor enih
lanjut...
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